Wednesday 24 April 2013

What is communicating in dreams? Self, divine, demonic?

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It is striking how pervasive is the idea of dreams as a potential source of enlightenment, of information, and especially of divine revelations.

This is found among 'shamans' in animistic religions; and other mystics in many religions. And also within the Bible, for example in the New Testament, Joseph (earthly father of Jesus) was one whose dreams repeatedly brought divine revelations:

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Matthew

1: 20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

2: 13-14 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:

19-20 But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life.

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It seems that altered states of consciousness are conducive to divine revelations - but why would this be?

And are these revelations most likely to benign, divine and true; or may dream revelations also be the be evil, demonic and false?

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My current understanding is that most dreams, most of the time, for most people have no deep meaning - nor are they divine in origin.

What seems to happen during dreaming sleep is that the mind is cut-off from the environment - the senses are, more or less, ignored - and the  material generated during sleep - parts of which may be remembered as dreams - comes from our memory.

In sum - during dreaming sleep the content of consciousness comes from inside (memories) rather than outside (senses).

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But, most cultures, and most Christians in particular, would acknowledge that the material of dreams could, in principle, also come from divine, from spiritual sources.

And I think there is a kind-of-consensus that spiritual influences in dreams are mostly benign, divine and true; and that it is exceptional, unusual and extreme for spiritual influences during sleep to be evil, demonic and false.  

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This seems to have been the view held by JRR Tolkien, as expressed in the mouth of his alter ego Ramer in the The Notion Club Papers
http://notionclubpapers.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/evil-minds-attacking-during-sleep.html:

'Aren't some of the [dream] visitors malicious?' said Jeremy. 'Don't evil minds attack you ever in sleep?'

'I expect so,' said Ramer. 'They're always on the watch, asleep or awake. But they work more by deceit than attack. I don't think they are specially active in sleep. Less so, probably. I fancy they find it easier to get at us awake, distracted and not so aware. The body's a wonderful lever for an indirect influence on the mind, and deep dreams can be very remote from its disturbance...

'But there does come sometimes a frightening... a sort of knocking at the door: it doesn't describe it, but that'll have to do. I think that is one of the ways in which that horrible sense of fear arises: a fear that doesn't seem to reside in the remembered dream-situation at all, or wildly exceeds it...

'That situation may have various explanations here. But out (or down) there sometimes the mind is suddenly aware that there is a night outside, and enemies walk in it: one is trying to get in. But there are no walls,' said Ramer sombrely. 'The soul is dreadfully naked when it notices it, when that is pointed out to it by something alien. It has no armour on it, it has only its being.

'But there is a guardian. He seems to command precipitate retreat. You could, if you were a fool, disobey, I suppose. You could push him away. You could have got into a state in which you were attracted by the fear. But I can't imagine it.'

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The implication seems to be that 'secular dreams' are to do with the self, its experiences and memories; but in some people in some situations there may be revelatory dreams of divine origin.

While a revelation may be misinterpreted, perhaps only people of exceptional and deliberate depravity would be expected to experience revelatory dreams from malicious sources (demonic, evil-intending); and such people would usually bring the evil into the dream from their re-experienced memories.

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But why during sleep? Why should divine communications not happen more when people are awake and alert?

The answer is, I think, merely that sleep is the time when our mind is most closed off from its environment, this where other sources of 'noise' are at a minimum.

Spiritual communications are therefore clearer and stand-out better against the background in altered states of consciousness such as sleep - and relevant and significant divine revelation is usually remembered even during during sleep, despite that normal dream contents may rapidly be forgotten.

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3 comments:

Tom said...

The answer is, I think, merely that sleep is the time when our mind is most closed off from its environment, this where other sources of 'noise' are at a minimum.

Spiritual communications are therefore clearer and stand-out better against the background in altered states of consciousness such as sleep - and relevant and significant divine revelation is usually remembered even during during sleep, despite that normal dream contents may rapidly be forgotten.


This reminds me of the Ganzfeld experiment, which parapsychologists claim reveal evidence for paranormal phenomena, specifically telepathy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganzfeld_experiment

Subjects are cut off from normal sensory inputs and record the images, impressions, thoughts, etc. they have while in that sensory deprived state. A "sender" physically removed from the subject tries to "send" specific information to the subject, and this information is compared to the recorded impressions of the subject.

Troels said...

I admit that I have some problems accepting the idea that the dream experiences described in The Notion Club Papers should be autobiographical to the extent you seem to me to be suggesting.

However, setting that scepticism aside for a moment and focusing on the concept of dream-messages as described in Tolkien's fiction, I think this is an interesting discussion.

I would also point to the experiences in Lothlórien in The Lord of the Rings — particularly Sam's comments first about feeling as if he was inside a song (with the special qualities of the Elven-songs, the distinction between this and a dream gets slightly blurred), and his later comment about bringing one's own danger into Lothlórien.

Not exactly about dreams, but nonetheless expressing some of the same ideas as you express with people bringing themselves their evils into their dreams (which then become nightmares).

Taking this a step further, seeing evil as a privation of good, you could then say that the common theme is people who fail to bring the good with them (or who do not have sufficient good to bring) — whether into their sleep or into Faërie.

Bruce Charlton said...

@Troels

"I have some problems accepting the idea that the dream experiences described in The Notion Club Papers should be autobiographical to the extent you seem to me to be suggesting."

Probably this will never be known for sure - but the fact that Christopher Tolkien confirms (in the notes to the NCPs - see http://notionclubpapers.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/ramer-as-tolkien-1_19.html ) several of Ramer's dreams as having been much the same as his Fathers does suggest that mine is a reasonable assumption.

"seeing evil as a privation of good" - I find it more helpful to see evil as the purposive *destruction* of good.